North Austin is a church peppered sh!thole.

topic posted Wed, February 4, 2009 - 6:57 PM by  Ben
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(This is a rant....do not be alarmed....take with a grain of salt.)

Yeck, I've only been here about 8 months but it definitely
seems to be the worst side of town to me.

We have three (soon to be four) churches on our little 1/2 mile long road.

I seem to be surrounded by either unflinchingly snooty rich people who refuse to look much less *smile* at me or
the same ol' tired 'thug culture' kids blasting their bass, hanging out shirtless and 'mad dogging' me and my lady.

Definitely not bike, ped or kid friendly.

And the bus system takes me 1 1/2 to 2 solid hours to get downtown.
1 1/2 hours to get to the nearest library (literally 5 mins away by car).

I guess it's true that suburbs are the same in Austin, Oklahoma City, Birmingham or Portland.
I could be in Anytown, USA for all the culture I get up here in the chilly North.

Anyone feel the same way?
Am I missing something?

thanks for reading this.
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    Re: North Austin is a church peppered sh!thole.

    Wed, February 4, 2009 - 9:43 PM
    its the same wherever you go and it actually is very bike, pet, and kid friendly. just wait and see brother......
    • Re: North Austin is a church peppered sh!thole.

      Fri, February 6, 2009 - 7:48 PM
      'it actually is very bike, pet, and kid friendly"
      um...okay. Compared to what?

      "Wait and see"...why?
      Are they going to build a slew of sidewalks sometime soon?

      If I lived on the NNW side of town I'd be giddy...
      "Whoo Hoo look how 'progressive' we are! We have ONE, small stretch of light rail yeah!"

      Unfortunately I live closer to Pflugerville.
      :(

      And I'd rather deal with hipsters any day of the week than violent thugs.
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    Re: North Austin is a church peppered sh!thole.

    Thu, February 5, 2009 - 5:10 AM
    Seems like an even trade to me. Hipsters and scenesters for thugs and soccer moms? At least you can actually own land for an affordable price outside of the city, instead of adding to the inflated rental economy.
  • Re: North Austin is a church peppered sh!thole.

    Mon, February 9, 2009 - 1:23 PM
    If you don't like where you are...change it! Explore other parts of Austin! There are a ton of great neighborhoods...and yes, just like in any city...you have to look for them, talk with locals that you connect with, and just get out and see what is out there! I understand the whole bus thing...I have a 15-20 min walk to the nearest bus stop, and it takes almost 2 hours to get from South Austin to way North...but I appreciate not having to deal with traffic during the morning rush hour...and I have often met and had great conversations with people I might otherwise have not. It is way better than a lot of cities...no where near the sweetness of inner Portland, but this really is not bad!
    Instead of complaining about it...move...
    We did our home work before we settled into a part of town...South is definitely happening...
    • North Austin.....is a church peppered sh!thole.

      Mon, February 9, 2009 - 10:43 PM


      "Riding public transit can be a good opportunity to interact unexpectedly with your fellow citizens!"

      Wow.

      Do you write for Guideposts?


      "If you don't like where you are...change it! "

      Or maybe fortune cookies?


      :P*
      I'm just playin with ya.

      Yeah I know what you're saying but I'm talking specifically about the Northside
      and pretty much understand the ins and outs of public transit, Southside Austin,
      'doing homework' and/or changing where you're at. thanks for responding though!

      And I do intend to move, change it *and* complain bitterly all at the same time!

      By that I mean... moving myself and my caustic, whiney negativity far, far away from Austin can only improve the place, don't you think?



      back OT.

      Anyone else wonder about / despise the Northside's conservatism and lack of 'progressive' community planning?

      Makes me wonder:
      Why would anyone choose to live in Austin and be conservative?
      Am I uninformed?
      Maybe they have been here all along?
      Maybe they don't have the money to move across the country?
      How many licks *does* it take to get to the center of a Tootsie pop?
      Are those gaudy 'Texas Stars' THE stupidest, conformist bullshit thing you've ever seen or is it just me?




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        Re: North Austin.....is a church peppered sh!thole.

        Mon, February 9, 2009 - 11:55 PM
        I'm a conservative, and I've been here a lot longer than you.

        This is the CAPITOL of the state of TEXAS.

        And seriously, if you hate everything here so much, move the fuck away, we didn't ask you to come here.
        • Re: North Austin.....is NOT FUNNY!

          Tue, February 10, 2009 - 3:13 AM
          Wow....
          I couldn't make stuff like that up if I tried.

          Before I JOKINGLY 'tear your argument to tiny pieces'.... let me just say, sincerely, thanks for responding.

          I love you . whoever you are.

          Okay, lets begin constructing your new sphincter orifice!
          :P

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          "...if you hate everything here so much,"
          I don't hate 'everything' here Ronnie, just humorless fucks like you.
          Which *is* damn near 'everything' considering how many of you there are on the Northside.

          "I'm a conservative, and I've been here a lot longer than you. "
          Assuming shit right off the bat. Lovely.
          This is really my favorite part.
          You've got juvenile pride, xenophobia, and blind assumptions...you've got it all right there.

          "This is the CAPITOL of the state of TEXAS"
          No shit?
          Funny....you've been here "Lo these many years", are territorial and defensive about the place, and you still haven't looked at any
          voting demographics?

          I'll bet Austin has been more liberal than the rest of the state for way longer than you have been here.


          "...move the fuck away..."
          oh I am! ...I am!
          I'm moving *right* the fuck away...
          ...but you'll still be eating a dick when i'm gone!

          :D
          That's my favorite joke of the bunch right there.


          "...we didn't ask you to come here..."
          'We'? Have you been spending too much time alone Ronald?
          Or are you speaking for the whole city of Austin?

          Because *I* didn't even ask me to come here.

          I was born here.

          Which *really* sucks because I've been dealing with conservative (insert creative, plural expletive here) like you my whole life.
          (sob)

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          Anyways Ronnie, in closing let me just say, sorry if I ruffled your feathers....
          okay I'm not sorry... fuck you, really, but in a gentle, slow, tender way that only a progressive
          man can fuck a conservative, oh so tighly-clenched one.

          Anyways, read the fine print, " this is a rant, take with a grain of salt, etc."

          And settle down, jesus, you'll live longer and get more done that way.
          Nothing on the internet is worth making an ass of yourself over.

          Peace,
          Ben











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            Re: North Austin.....is NOT FUNNY!

            Tue, February 10, 2009 - 3:19 AM
            but clearly you intend to continue making an ass of yourself at every step.
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              Tue, February 10, 2009 - 3:36 AM
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              • Re: North Austin.....is NOT FUNNY!

                Wed, April 8, 2009 - 6:59 AM
                LOLZ .....you got him Ben!

                I was born here too.
                I had to go elsewhere to get an education and get away from that aforementioned Agro-attitude and all these uninformed blind assumptions...ick
                But I'm back to take care of my Dad

                When I do leave again I will never look back or step foot on Texass soil again.
                They say Austin is an oasis?... Its still surrounded on all sides by TX
                Keep Austin Weird?....are you joking?
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                  Re: North Austin.....is NOT FUNNY!

                  Wed, July 1, 2009 - 9:10 PM
                  You had to go elsewhere to get an education? Really? because UT Austin is one of the top ranked universities in the country, and has been ranked as high as 15th, beating out several Ivy's, in the WORLD, by the London Times. So where'd you go, Harvard?
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                    Re: North Austin.....is NOT FUNNY!

                    Wed, July 1, 2009 - 10:10 PM
                    This is how exciting Austin's cultural scene is:
                    We are here having this conversation.
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                      Thu, July 2, 2009 - 6:54 AM
                      "This is how exciting Austin's cultural scene is:
                      We are here having this conversation."

                      --all anyone has to do is pick up the Austin Chronicle and look in the events section to see that there is more live music (of all kinds), theatre, and art than you could possibly take in. Also lectures, book signings, art shows.

                      There is a cultural scene. Perhaps you are just too lazy to attend and want it all to come to you instead.

                      It does not help that you stupidly signed a lease in a very unappealing part of town. Why did you do that, son?
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                      Re: North Austin.....is NOT FUNNY!

                      Fri, July 3, 2009 - 8:29 AM
                      "This is how exciting Austin's cultural scene is:
                      We are here having this conversation."

                      ---the main problem with Austin's cultural scene is that people like Ben move here, sit on their ass on the sofa in their shitty Northeast Austin apartment, and bitch and moan about how the cultural scene hasn't opened up to them. I mean, what do YOU have to contribute to the scene, Ben? Absolutely nothing.
                      • Re: North Austin.....or South Oklahoma?

                        Fri, July 3, 2009 - 3:38 PM


                        You obviously don't know anything about me.
                        ...or Austin.

                        It's not that the city is worse than Anytown, USA...it's that
                        it bills itself as this oasis of progressive thought...which it obviously isn't.





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                          Re: North Austin.....or South Oklahoma?

                          Fri, July 3, 2009 - 7:46 PM
                          <it bills itself as this oasis of progressive thought...which it obviously isn't. >

                          I have never seen it billed as such.

                          And unfortunately, it is rather 'progressive', which means it does some smart stuff, and a lot of not so smart stuff (like putting the ARCH right downtown)
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                          Sun, July 5, 2009 - 12:56 PM
                          "You obviously don't know anything about me."

                          ---I know that you are very negative and just love to bitch. 99% of your posts on tribe are of that nature. Is there anything else to you that we are missing?

                          "...or Austin. "

                          ---LOL. Right. This has been my real home since before you were born. But even if I know nothing of Austin, I know enough about Austin to know better than to move to a rathole apartment complex near Plfugerville and expect it to be anything other than the low rent nasty run down suburb that it is. Explain to us again how you did not notice this about your hood when you signed your lease? Are you stupid or just blind?

                          "It's not that the city is worse than Anytown, USA...it's that
                          it bills itself as this oasis of progressive thought...which it obviously isn't."

                          ---This is based on what? All you have said in support of your rant is that north east Austin near Pflugerville sucks. Yes it does. Tell us again how it is that you didn't notice this when you signed your lease?
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                          Sun, July 5, 2009 - 2:45 PM
                          "It's not that the city is worse than Anytown, USA...it's that
                          it bills itself as this oasis of progressive thought...which it obviously isn't."

                          ---I've never seen Austin billing itself as such. If you want to mingle with people who wear their progressiveness on their sleaves, you won't find enough of that in Austin to your liking.
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                            Re: North Austin.....or South Oklahoma?

                            Mon, July 6, 2009 - 1:27 AM
                            Oh no, all he has to do is move to my hood - south east central, its nothin' but hip progressive folks who drink all week and on the weekends complain about the frat kids and the cops.
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                              Re: North Austin.....or South Oklahoma?

                              Mon, July 6, 2009 - 5:37 AM
                              Awesome! Good to know that some things never change.
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                                Re: North Austin.....or South Oklahoma?

                                Mon, July 6, 2009 - 6:22 AM
                                my favorite are all the alcoholic drug using punk rockers pushing 40, with their so co shops and hip little boutiques who are complaining that they cant stay in business, cant afford their rent, etc, when Austin's adding jobs.

                                I'm sure the all day booze fests for the last 15 years, the drugs, and the failure to handle their $$ when business was BOOMING (ie, saving for a rainy day), had nothing to do with their situation. It's all Bush's fault their credit is maxed out and no one wants their vintage t shirts anymore.
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                                  Mon, July 6, 2009 - 11:34 AM
                                  Hard to say.

                                  Some of those businesses would be failing now no matter how wisely they had been managed. Others deserve to fail and are living on borrowed time.

                                  As for drug and alcohol abuse, I am not personally acquainted with any business owners or shop owners who spend their time or money on drugs and booze. Even during good times, you can't really run a business and be fucked up. Now, you can be the owner and be fucked up, but only if you have good managers running it for you. I've seen some of that, especially some of the bar & restaurant owners. But that only lasts for so long. If you're a drunk or a druggie, eventually your good managers will wander off and you'll be left with people who rob you blind.

                                  I know plenty of business owners who are struggling right now. None of them have blamed it on the Republicans. They're more worried about how to survive than in blaming anyone.
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                    Thu, July 2, 2009 - 6:26 AM
                    I think what she meant was she couldn't get into The University. As you are well aware, The University will not take just anybody.

                    There are other good colleges in the area as well. Southwestern University in Georgetown is a very respectable liberal arts college, and St. Edwards University in south Austin has some excellent departments. Its theatre department is outstanding.

                    And what's wrong with Austin Community College? Well, actually, it has some problems, but from the student perspective, it's acceptable for a community college.

                    So when these creative types say they had to leave Austin to get an education, I go "huh?"

                    Going away for an education is fine and may be a right of passage, but to say you have to leave Texas to get an education is just ... silly.
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                      Re: North Austin.....is NOT FUNNY!

                      Thu, July 2, 2009 - 12:32 PM
                      <I think what she meant was she couldn't get into The University. As you are well aware, The University will not take just anybody. >

                      good point. I forget that UT rejects thousands and thousands each year.

                      There are other amazing institutions of higher learning in TX, you mentioned a couple, but Rice in Houston, for example, is another world class facility.


                      <Going away for an education is fine and may be a right of passage, but to say you have to leave Texas to get an education is just ... silly.>

                      When you're right, you're right.
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                        Thu, July 2, 2009 - 12:52 PM
                        Yes indeed, if you expand the search outside of Austin, there are even more fine institutions of higher learning, including the ones you mentioned, like Rice.

                        What else? University of North Texas has an outstanding, world class music department. Trinity University in San Antonio is a decent liberal arts college, and TCU is a decent university in Fort Worth. I don't care much for SMU, but it has some good departments.

                        I don't know much about the University of Houston or Texas Tech, but they are both bargains in terms of tuition.

                        Texas State used to have a reputation as a party school, but is starting to be taken more seriously.

                        And then there's Texas A&M, which if you are into science or engineering, is one of the best schools around, and a bargain.
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    North Austin near Pflugerville?

    Yeah, that would not be my first choice of address in Austin. That part of Austin could be Oklahoma City or any other souless suburb.

    Why did you chose that particular neighborhood, Ben? All the faults of that neighborhood that you talk about would have been apparent to any casual observer on first glance.

    The parts of Austin I live, work and hang out in are cool. The part of Austin you live in sucks. But I am pretty sure you did not consult me when you chose that address. I can only shrug my shoulders at your lament.

    My advice? Find a cooler hood, find a friend with a pickup truck, pack your stuff into the truck, and move to the cool 'hood.

    Good luck.
  • Poor, Poor you.. I moved from Houston to Austin about 12yrs ago. I live in North Austin, unfortunately in the past 5yrs or so, the area I live in has done nothing but degrade, vigorously. Rundberg/Lamar/35 area, yes, i live smack dab in the middle of shitville. Your area is probably a walk in the park compaired to where I live.

    Despite the area, I don't have to really deal with snooty people. I'd rather deal with them than the wanna be thuglets, the real thugs and drug dealers, the prostitutes, the pregnant teens, the racial divide and discrimination. I happen to literally be the minority not only in the complex I live but my teenage daughter was only one of maybe a half dozen or less white students in her school, everyone and I mean everyone knew her and knew me because i'm always there. So you complaining about where you live, come live over in my little corner of North Austin. I bet you'd be super glad of where you live. Even though it bothers me, I've lived in worse shithole places when I was growing up in Houston, so my little area, it's mild in comparison.

    Unfortunately for me, I have to make due and literally deal with where I live because being a single parent on a chk to chk income and no time or the current means to go back to school or anything else for that matter, i deal. I'm more worried about my kid and her safety because of where I live. so far, people tend to leave me alone, despite the staring, the mean mugging, and cat calls. I don't mind driving 10-30 minutes to the nearest kid, pet, bicycle friendly areas. I love the area going towards south lamar and the bridge near Lady Bird Lake and I love to walk up and down checking out the shops and stuff on Guadalupe.

    So my suggestion, get out and go do something, heck RR is just down the road, stuff to go do there too and not all of P-ville is bad, get out and explore. I mean it's not like you live off in the freaking boonies and no means to get anywhere and geez, you might have to drive half an hour to a decent park, big deal.
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    I live in central Austin along a beautiful, quiet, tree lined street in a neighborhood where everyone knows and looks out for their neighbors. Very friendly, very low crime. Also very tolerant. Old folks, young folks, families, singles, democrats, republicans, straights, gays ....very kid and pet friendly.

    I can walk to stores, restaurants, parks....

    ...as for being packed with churches, not really. I've never thought about that before, but no, there's no church near by. Some of my neighbors go to church Sunday, others don't. In that regard, everyone minds their own business in my neighborhood. There is no phony holier than thou horsecrap to deal with.

    As for traffic and commutes from hell, it takes me 20 minutes to ride my bike along the hike and bike trail and just a few quiet streets to get to my office downtown, or about 10 minutes by car.

    I don't use the bus system but the bus line comes by here and will take you anywhere.

    My office, just west of downtown, is where a lot of the coolest nightlife and retail is to be found. My office is also along a beautiful tree lined street, with many historic old houses.

    My Austin doesn't suck. It rocks. Sorry to hear that your Austin experience does suck. But I have paid my dues. I had to work for it, to arrive in such a lovely neighborhood and have a nice quality of living.

    I've realized that from having lived in other places, you have to work for it.

    When I first moved to Austin, in the late 1970's, the living was easy, it wasn't crowded and the cost of living was the lowest in the country. Things change. Now, the living is not as easy. You have to work for it. But I can't agree with the statement that it sucks here.
    • Sounds lovely, excatly the kind of atmosphere I'm looking for. I love Austin, even despite the area I live in. I'd rather live where I am at now than move back to Houston. I fell in love with Austin the 1st time I visited here in 96.
      • What did you fall in love with Melissa?
        I mean, compared to Houston...

        • Re: North Austin is a church peppered sh!thole.

          Tue, July 14, 2009 - 10:14 AM
          That there are actually trees and not just concrete as far as the eye can see. I can drive 15 minutes and be in a park, with trails, canoeing, natural spring fed pool. It's very artsy here with quaint little shops. I guess the biggest plus is that the humidity levels are so much lower than in Houston. Even though Austin is growing and there is traffic congestion, it's nothing compaired to Houston. Everytime I go and visit family, the areas I grew up in just don't seem familiar anymore, they seem alien.

          Places that used to be natural are now gone, paved over to make small housing communities, metro park n rides and so on. I know that change always happens, that things must expand to keep commerce going but sometimes I wonder why. You see buildings that sprouted up one year and the next they are empty because the buisness couldn't thrive, it then becomes a tagging ground and it just sits as an eyesore. Buisness are moving to the out skirts of the Houston area, so you have to drive 30 min to an hour to get to a buisness that was once just a few minutes away.

          When I'm in Houston, I feel closed in, confined, almost feeling suffocated by the amount of buildings, the lack of trees that help reduce the heat and break up that concrete grey. You can literally see the heat rising off every surface, streets and buildings, adding to that suffocating feeling. In the winter time, the lack of green and just all that concrete really increases that dull greyness, increasing that winter blues feeling, despair, sadness, hopelessness.

          I know that a lot of construction has been going on in Austin, especially the eyesore condo units near downtown but atleast they still try to keep that green aspect. I like that Austin, despite it's own growth issues, tries to keep nature and growth in balance, whereas Houston just kinda said screw it.

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